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And the excuses keep coming! Also note Max Security is tearing up his works all of a sudden. Will anyone be surprised to see a huge negative number put up in the Classic? Will they ever get this guy?
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Jerry
Now that the bill has passed, care to comment on how things in racing may change? Or is it just more window dressing? Thanks. T.
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There are so many ways we can lose at this game, do you feel comfortable making wagers knowing that the will pay might be false on Twinspires? The disregard the showed me as a customer was unbelievable. I live in Louisville and primarily bet Churchill even more so since I can not use my season box. I will not place another wager with such a company as Twinspires even again. Best of luck to yo
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I get that but all those scratches had happened before those will pays were posted. Ed's point was that I would also got a consolation $.50 paying $258.
My point was the will pay was stating $560 for $.50, with the consolation it should have returned the posted $1,112.80
All the will pays posted pk3, pk4, pk5 were incorrect. Let's say the 9 lost would they have returned
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I don't think that's correct. The will pays were posting following the scratch of the 12 and the amount bet on any particular entry would not have affected the pick 5 pool.
Fairmont - Your example is exactly my case. All the will pays were wrong, pk3, pk4. and pk5. Most glaring was the pk5 which was double the real return. I was live to six horses, each showed a small return. In
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What responsibility does a ADW company have to post correct will pay information?
Prior to race 11 at KY Downs the $1 will pay on the 9 was posted as $1,112.80 this was after the 12 horse had scratched. When the race was finished the $.50 pick 5 was posted as only $258.30. Therefore the will pays were completely wrong including the will pays for the pick 3 and pick 4. Who's responsib
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Really please why do these crap pot ideas always come out prior to derby? Yes, trip makes a difference. Wow, thanks for the news bulletin. How on earth does that data help you? So Authentic ruins himself to get the rail. Oh joy but no telling how good the EPO juice is! Storm the Court gets the dream ride to grab the rail and that will prove you point? You pay money for the figures not this
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I would suggest watching some of Jerry previous seminars in the archives then buying his take in two weeks.
As for me, I lost all enthusiasm at 4:30pm yesterday. I kept telling my buddies it was going to be the best Derby ever. No over running toilets, drunk girls puking in the walkways, and no lines at the tellers for last minute bets. What a shame.
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Thank you, I thought the conversion was 3 points.
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Jerry - Sheets posted on twitter Swiss Skydiver a 6 for the Alabama, that appears slow to me. Care to comment on that figure or wait for Derby week?
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Maggie is a gem! Best of luck and happy 4th boys. Here's hoping that Mr. EPO doesn't give us the finger again today.
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Rachel Alexandra did after the Oaks but then again she wasn't trained by Mr. (edit).
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CD May 28th Race 2 - care to give us a ballpark on that figure. Steve is good 2nd out I would just like to know if he's in the park. Thanks Jerry. T.
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Richie
We don't know if there's going to be spectators at the Derby but the reason Sept. 5th was picked was because of the agreement with NBC. That weekend is one where NBC wasn't broadcasting a ND college football game. That's why the date was choosen, who knows if it will work out or not. CD also talking about restrictions for the infield, versus the grandstand, versus
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Frank
No Farmington Road for you? Best of luck. T.
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P-Dub
I think you are sadly mistaken that the race would have been split if Charaltan was trained by anyone else. Wouldn't happen for someone like Mary Eppler! The horse most certainty wouldn't have be on the Baffert "program" and run that crazy number First Out! Unfortunately, many in the industry see him as too big to fail, too big to be even questioned and his arrogan
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So Baffy gets OP to split the race in order for Charlatan to run. Two horses scratch out of the box, one being the only other speed in the first division. Funny how both scratches are by California trainers. Must be nice that the entire industry gives Bobby what he wants.
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“Often, the co-conspirators submitted or directed others to submit prescriptions to pharmacies under the names and patient files of canine patients, in order to disguise the fact that the PEDs, including Epogen and other prescription blood builders, were in fact being obtained for illicit administration to racehorses,†the indictment states.
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Richie
Isn't that in it's self part of the problem. The West are playing the deny, deny, deny game that they didn't know Servis was a cheater. Please! Then they move Max to Baffert? Really at some point; if this game is ever going to be cleaned up, the owners must be held accountable.
I for one; hope and pray, that they lose the $10 million and tracks across the country s
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BREAKING: prize-money for the world's richest race, the Saudi Cup, has been withheld due to criminal charges against the winning horse's trainer, Jason Servis, in the US. More to follow at
If found guilty, could US tracks also engage in law suits against the trainers and the connection? This would certainly be a deterrent!
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5/1 did cut back the bet but I still have no idea what went on in that race. * was last off the first turn so I knew I was done. Handicapping is only half the battle, betting is the other half!
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Here's hoping I can get anything close to the morning of 15/1 on Sir Anthony in the 6th!
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Not sure why people are focusing on this SGF-1000 when “Monkey†Epogen is the real issue. One the Baffert’s of the world are accused of using.
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Frank
It didn't take the West's very long to talk to Jason, they already announced Max will be moving to Baffy's barn. Surprise, surprise!
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In response to a number of media inquiries, FBI Louisville will confirm it is conducting judicially authorized activity with @US_FDA
at Tailor Made Compounding, 200 Moore Drive, Nicholasville, KY.
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Another intercepted call includes Servis talking to veterinarian Kristian Rhein about plans to mask drugs given to Maximum Security before the 2019 Pegasus Stakes.
"They don't even have a test for it," Rhein is heard telling Servis. ". . . There's no test for it in America."
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Jerry
Do you think the Penn National case was a source of information?
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NBC News: Federal prosecutors charge horse trainer Jorge Navarro with giving adulterated and misbranded PEDs to "XY Jet" prior to that horse's wins in Florida and Dubai last year (netting him $1.5 million there).
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I'm going with the Tonalist horse, no idea what that Saffie is using but I see that one running big today vs. TP's who should regress. Did anyone spot a White Mercedes with KY plates at GP today?
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