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Check out the odds on the 1, 3 and 4 horses live vs Twinspires. Twinspires might be showing the odds just before last flash (vs the live shot showing the closing odds), but doubt they changed that much!
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"Chiming Jet, a Tri Jet mare who earlier raced for breeder Fred Hooper, started five times in 22 days, winning twice, finishing second once and third once.
Even better was Teriyaki Stake, a $20,000 Barrera claim that won six consecutive races, all of them in March of 1986: $22,500 claiming races on March 2 and 10; a $35,000 claiming race March 13; a $45,000 claiming race March 21; an allo
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25 starts in a year is one just about every two weeks.
Oscar Barrera died in '91!
Where were these horses running or is there an actual list with locations/types of races and their wins?
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Decided to come with a couple of newbies and for anyone interested, at the Sheraton Suites in Plantation tonight - feel free to stop by. Tomorrow supposedly right in front of 10 Palms reserved seats - grandstand kind of guy but will be out and about. Someone give me a reason to come for first two or three!!
Call/text my cell if anyone wants to meet up today/tomorrow- 561-703-8745
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Any chance I could get TG analysis? Been busy and just realized no longer up. Curious how your pick in the 9th might have differed.
Thanks
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Nero and Still having fun, each across the board and in exotics.
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Nice call on Gift Box.
Decided against Axelrod in the next simply because of the 0 2 X possibility.
Still having Fun interesting across the board at 20-1 or even over 10-1. My suspicion, the exacts and trifecta here will be decent.
Good luck to all.
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That would have to be some forward move, but good luck. And in the 9th, Axelrod? Another negative or the X in an 0, 2 (1&3/4) X?? At 10-1, I think I'll find out.
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Thanks to all who answered the "call." The above two reminded me of a Tom Durkin in the fog call as another with more things going on than the race. Sure there are many others:
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I'll bite and say no; there are too many great jockeys to pronounce McCarron the best. I just watched 3 races, 2 classic distances: the Breeders Cup Classic with Sunday Silence and a great ride by McCarron, no doubt. The only things better, the horses performance and the race call by Tom Durkin. I also watched the 1976 Derby (a great ride by Angel Cordero; another one in the Belmont) and
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Unless I'm seeing a misprint, ended up at 5-1 on the horse and 7-1 on the sire; minimum $16 payout vs a maximum of $13.80 a deal certainly eliminates a lot if not all of takeout!
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Both Game Winner and his sire Candy Ride at 6-1 in the Ky Derby and sire future pools. Clearly 6-1 could be almost 7-1, but with no other information, why bet on Game Winner when you can get same odds on the sire when you might get another runner or two?
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Joe:
If you wait for 10/1 on a 20% probability, you are not pulling the trigger enough! 20%? 9/2 is plenty! 10/1 would be phenomenal.
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I could not let this one pass and setting aside Oscar Barrera for a moment:
The $2 parlay on WS 5 consecutive Belmont Stakes would have gotten you $2891.70. Baffert's 3 BC's: $65 and change.
Look at it another way: Set the odds at either winning their respective race before the start of the year at 20-1. Then the odds of what Baffert has done is 8000-1 while Stephens is at 3.
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If I had a "good thing" and could bet $20,000 on a horse and get 7/2 or 4-1 vs putting $45000 and getting 5/2, why would I be so stupid as to wager the $45,000? It suggests that either more than one program betting entity/whale had the horse or the $45,000 was in the know (or just stupid.) Judging from the sheets, if I saw that horse at 5-1, my thought wouldn't be "let me ma
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A couple of thoughts from a neutral corner:
First, the game wouldn't be on it's last leg even if every race were thought to be fixed; people love gambling and would always enjoy the idea of predicting the fix. People bet on dog fights and dog races and bet their last few dollars on the lottery even when they know their chances of winning are less than that of being hit by lightening
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And the winner would have won by about 5 with a better post. Thanks to TG analysis for confirming what I liked - upped my bet because of your pick and with the NBC cameras it was an incredibly enjoyable race to watch.
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Curious how many people liked this horse (as I did) and how many did not? For those who did not, please explain. Hate getting beat so badly on a horse that looks solid. The horse that threw the rider did not make the difference here.
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Already downloaded the data and looks like a better card than most Saturday's at Belmont nowadays.
(Great weather forecast - and hopefully the bad weather doesn't move backwards!)
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Justify probably more relaxed than people posting here.
That said, at 3 or 4/5, a bet against and let me see history and not feel so bad if I lose to an undefeated TC winner.
PS. Was at the '77 Belmont and bet $300 on Seattle Slew. That meant about what $1000 or even $2000 means to me today - a lot! Saw him all lathered up coming to the post (paid $1.50 for my seat right before the
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Yes, same issue - they have to wait for it to "clear" without any "issues" from the depositor (you or me!) Don't sweat the small stuff.
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Just like the talking heads on CNBC, Andy Serling and everyone on air gets paid for something OTHER than giving out astute info. I like Eddie Olczyk, but even he wouldn't talk me off a horse unless he pointed something out I hadn't take into account. I feel the same way about the TG analysis, though either Olcyzk or the analysis might convince me to add a horse I hadn't considere
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Starting in 2001, 25 second quarters (2:30 finish) would have won only 5 Belmont Stakes and lost 12 times! The winner is likely somewhere between 24 second quarters (Secretariat) and that 2:30.
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And shouldn't there have been an s on the end regardless?
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