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Congrats to El Gato and connections.
Adventist looking like a Preakness contender.
Brandon Grace US open.
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If by open lengths you mean 2 or more I'll gamble he doesn't. My cash vs yours.
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Not to be overly contentious, but it's not uncommon for young horses to make huge leaps forward. From any barn.
Not too dissimilar from U2's "Angel of Harlem". It was a cold, wet december day when we touched the ground at JFK ( actually La Guardia). First timer won and ran a 16. Next race in a stake back at the four county town he won running an 18. Next start going from 6
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Plausible reason for extra whips in the lane. Ensuring he goes for a new top. Don't have stats in front of me, but fairly certain more pairs run than new tops in the derby.
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Not seeing much consequence for Cupid's start in this race. Colt definitely has big time gas. Bottom side loaded speed types.This late in the game being that green more of a consequence.
Who the pacesetters were a factor that cannot be overlooked.
1.Spikes; way too slow coming in
2.Siding:confirmed in last 2 starts tends to slow down early.
3.Madtap: 2 races back big jump forward the
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Regarding SBN : couldn't disagree more. Ugly is an understatement!
Think you've inflated how much Cupid gave up at the start. Slight swerve top of the lane inconsequential.After watching Afleet Alex everything else is ho-hum.
He did show guts late and went out nicely.
Of all the deep closers ( SBN, CW & Creator) CW went the best route however outran through lane.
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From 2006-2015 70% of the Derby winners were 8-1 or less.
Number of pletcher runners in that 70% were 6. Number of wins out of the 6 was the 1 lucky one you mentioned.
Same time frame 67% of horse to finish first,second and third were 13-1 or lowet.
Number of pletcher entrants in the 67% were 10. Number of top 3 finishes is 3.
The seven who were 13-1 and under who ran out.
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The part of my post regarding the 1 for 31 was about pletcher. I reviewed the archives and my take is only 10 and as low as 8 entrants for pletcher were legitimate to run 1,2 and 3. Re baffert: never mentioned him. I mentioned the Mor Spirit.
I also mentioned Destin. Hasn't run out of his skin and imo seems the type who will go on.
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From 2006-2015: 31 starters and 1 win. The stat is slightly diversionary. I'm of the opinion no more than 10 and as low as 8 of these entrants had a legitimate chance of running first, second and third. As of this moment though Mor Spirit is my key. Mor Spirit will have to seriously disappoint in his subsequent races for me to change my opinion. At this point i like him as much as i liked Ne
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Weak field yes. Weak race no. Not sure what you mean by overcoming trainer? Going back to December Destin hasn't worked over a half mile.
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Mjellish,
LOS has a legit 2 year old top. Sire stat over 4 pts improvement from 2-3. Needs a forward move next race. Any thoughts on Destin? Full to G1 winner and very atypical considering the barn.Last race certainly a breakout.
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Mjellish,
Thanks. If this were a poker table i suppose that would have been similar to asking what do the blinds mean ? Nevertheless, after watching all the top colts' action i belive Mor Spirit probably is best in May. If he makes the gate he's my key.
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Mjellish,
I do remember. Also third on the list when racehorse and eswt are searched on google. Have you heard or read why Nyquist is leaving California?
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Miff
Just checked the list.Nothing for Nyquist other than the treatment 9-29. Fairly confident handling going from San Vicente, Fl Derby to Kentucky.
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Miff
I remember you mentioning firing line and eswt last year. Nyquist was shockwaved end of September.haven't read if he's had recent treatment. Does the CHRB have public extensive records?
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Miff
Lengths beaten, weight and ground loss have Zulu approx 4 pts slower than Mohaymen.Zulu went backwards?
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Obviously I'll settle to agree to disagree on the surprised or as you put it, I'm paraphrasing, " anyone would be living in an alternate reality if a horse that didn't necessarily figure to get sent and did".
Re: dollar bills and gambling fodder
Any day you feel up to it I'd love to go heads up.
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All things considered i wouldn't be surprised. Tell me ringato do you think it's a secret AP is most likely the controlling speed ? If you're racing your horse against AP in this scenario do you adjust or just wish something happens ? Re: Travers
Your comment about Frostman and "look what happened last time". With ground calculated basically same figure. The manner in w
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Hindsight being 20/10 1& 1/16 miles for the juvy grass races may have been more equitable. Either way I'll be going with Camelot Kitten. Trainer stats for 3rd time 2 year olds = 45% top . Both starts for CK hinting he may prefer expected surface.
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With all that said can you be counted on to go in against LM in the mile?
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Good survey. Short and sweet.
Thanks for the heads up. #1. Catch the cheaters, #2.Horse welfare.
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Mentioned Frosty as an example only.Doubting it will happen again unless there's an obvious recognizable speed bias.If there is in fact a front end bias and he's drawn inside of AP i would send the Frostman.
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Ringato,
Plenty of starch remaining, moreover we haven't an idea how the track will play.maybe someone will alter their mounts' running style ala Frosty the Frosted Frostman.
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Bridgmohan complaining of ankle pain, however left the first aid station on his own. Carmouche taken to university of Kentucky med center for xrays and evaluation. Complaining of chest pain.
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After Curlin wins the BC Classic, why the connections decided on four year old campaign?
Re: AP's future
Finish the year with the Classic and plan a 5-6
Race schedule for next year. Having guts does not apply here. Nobody is letting it all ride. They are wealthy with or without AP. Sports need sportsmen/Sportswomen.
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Beaten 2 lengths by AP. Ran two lengths farther than AP.
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came on the board in 2007 and vaguely remember him.Curiosity is peaked though.
are his posts still searchable?
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Btw,she also referred to Slumber as "slinking around the paddock like a big cat".She named Slumber as her "paddock pick".
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Bells,
If that was a motion to have the entire thread scrapped,i second the motion.
Somewhere along the way TGJB made mention about sniping and potshots." Drive by shooting".That's hilarious.
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