Isn't it just as important to have Commanding Curve as a really live horse at large odds like last year? That horse made everyone's ticket worthwhile behind Chrome.
I know giving stuff away isn't always the best business model, but speaking for myself I always felt that 10% of something was a helluva lot better than 100% of nothing.
As a guy who gladly purchases the seminar, I would not have any issue if you decided next year, to offer the Derby seminar free or at a reduced price for first time seminar purchasers. Why not give those people a reason to take a serious listen to all that you provide in that seminar? No question, you will retain many of those in the coming years.
Some people are really dogmatic, really loyal, they let personalities get in the road, but at the end of the day gamblers want results that put money in their pocket. If I really liked a dude and I was paying for his data and it wasn't performing for me, I would walk away and find somebody who's getting the job done.
I have no idea what you think about the suggestion about the free/reduced price for first time seminar buyers, but JB, we have free stuff all over this site!! I must have been pulling up Archives 500 times in the last month for the Derby looking to validate what I was thinking. We get to download for free every day almost to see TG figures from a track or race that we didn't even purchase.
Every year you give away a week or more of free data for as many tracks as a guy wants to look at.
Your numbers are creeping up because the data is good, your numbers are creeping up because the product isn't cheap, but it also performs.
When I download the Triple Crown races or the BC days, its with the idea that there will jewels in there that I didn't/wasn't able to uncover doing it my own way.
Again, sorry to ramble, but I check out that other board on occasion and I see mostly disgruntled users. If I'm a Rags user (never spent a penny there), I say give me something I can sink my teeth and wallet into, or I'm taking a hike to the site that's returning value to its customers.
That's all I gotta say about this topic.