sekrah,
Come on guy. Since you fell in love with Upstart do you have more right to call yourself a winner any more than those who fell in love with Mub? Neither horse measured up to their supporters expectations. It happens.
Your horse wound up watching Mub's slow moving Dubai rear end for 10 furlongs. Why would that make them a loser and you a winner?
Back to an earlier point I made to you. Why do you care what somebody else bets on in a race? You almost sound like the politician who thinks he can spend your money better than you.
You totally disliked Dortman, he beat 15 horses in the race including yours. The people who played him at least were in the hunt.
I did not like Upstart and I posted that on the forum. I played him on 19 different tickets in different spots out of respect for the combined brainpower in the room.
Enough about this nonsense.