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Ashado is my biggest throw out for the day. I'm going to toss Lost in the Fog, these are for pick 4's.
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Anyone else thinking AZAMOUR looks great in the turf. First, has a nice overall sheet of working his way down to the 0.2 and backed up just a bit in his last and looks to run that 0.2 on Sat. I'm not singling anyone, but this might be the race where I'll take him and maybe one-two other's in this race in the Pick 4.
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Your right about the east coast thing and people betting SL, whose the wise guy horse so far??
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That's cool, I think RHT is going to be about the same price of SL maybe even the fav. that's all people are talking about on TV RHT and how good he looks and the hype around this horse, which I think he could go either way, he runs a new top and backs up off that -2.1, no pairing up for him. Also I knew you was going to ask something on the line about does that extra 1F thing really ma
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Oh, those Tom.'s figs that your talking about are those the same in the DRF?? That's what I was looking at.
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I never said I was betting him, I'm not tossing him out of my play's, my point is it's one race he ran at 10.0, you mean to tell me if the woodward was 10.0 he would have lost? or any of his other races in which he won?? I think if he looses sat. it's going to be cause he wasn't ready to fire that day, what if he had a pattern that looked good to you he was going to run h
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I don't look at it as a distance problem for him, hell it's only what another what 1F you think that caused him to run up the track like that?? I saw a 0-2-X pattern coming into that SA race for him. Just ran the -6 and then a -0.2 and then a -4 if that wasn't sitting him up for a off race I don't know what it was. RHT only earned a 1pt better fig than he did, SL had more weig
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First off I didn't cash the race I liked the 2nd place horse and another one who didn't run well at all. I did take a big stand on not playing WV at all, this is a pattern I love playing horses to bounce off of. A nice size jump up and them pairing it up and 3rd race off those tops playing them to run a off race.
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Hell just looking at the beyers for those two races. Not even adding in weight or ground loss. Beyer had GS running a 95 and Shake running a 106. I guess it was a fast time for that HAW race uh? Looks like the DRF gave it a 102 meaning it was a new record within the past 3 years. Why do you think they came up with those fig's??
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Looks like to me it's going to take a -2 to -3 to win this race.
You have two of the three fav's that looks like to run a soild race. Being Saint L. and Rock. meaning I can't toss them nor can I make them a key. The other horse being Borrego, he might be backing up off that big race last time out. So what other horses at long odds and that are fast enough will do. Next is Flower
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All over the place...meaning TG might have one horse moving forward 1pt and Rag's will have it backing up 4pts. As far as Healthy A. beyer has 8 other horses fastest than her. Does seem a little fast.
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You all have Lost in the Fog tied for the 5th fastest, they have him the fastest by 1/4pt over Pomeroy. My main picks this year is going to with TG figs. I got the rag's sheets to help with some horses I might be stuck on. Yes, both products are all over the place in their number's. It's two different style's you have to use in reading both. Rag's horses bounce alot more
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I took a break at looking at the BC sheets and like a dumb ass I'm going to take a shot at this race. I'm looking for AMAZING BUY 15-1ml to run a new top today.
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Ok I was so happy that they put the two baby races in the first pick 4. I said to myself I'll go after the late pick 4. I really hadn't looked over any of the early races until now. The early pick 4 could produce the higher pay-out. There will be two of the lowest price horses on the card in those and both them looks like they could get beat, really Lost in the Fog I think he goes in th
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First of all I didn't do the baby races, 2nd: a pair to me was within 1/4 of a pt. either way. If the horse had either one or two races here in the usa and no euro number's I didn't mess with them, but if they had enough euro number's I use those.
This is from 1999 threw 2004: 3 races on the dirt and 3 races on the turf.
Dirt Races:
There was 19 tops ran on dirt and 19
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Anyone think this mare is on her way to a X. PP is coming into the BC with a 0-X-line she jumped up what 4pts, 3rd race in less than 8 weeks. This will be a price play, if the odds are good enough I guess it's worth adding her in. What's too low of odds for this lady??
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This is for the people into Thoro-pattern's..........
ASHADO pair-X-off 368-9%-25%-32%-35% I'm leaning toward being neg. on HAPPY TICKET also.......some people on here have talked about STELLAR JAYNE and I agree with you all she could run a big race next Sat. IN THE GOLD and YOLANDA B. TOO has nice lines with both being slower than most in here, but ING doesnt have to jump up that m
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Yes I think that 2.0 neg number he ran in his last is the fastest turf fig. ever. He will be tough on BC.
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Ashado - 18 years ago
This is what I worte back when...
Re: No love for Campo? & Happy Ticket, Etc... (87 Views)
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Date: October 1, 2005 04:20PM
"I'm calling it right now, I hope ASHADO number comes back a -1.3, if so she looks to back off that number and she will be a low price on BC day."
Looks like I got my wish on Ashado. Saint L. is a tough read. Looking
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I like what they did, now the late pick 4 is playable for me now. I hate when they had both the baby races in both of the pick 4.
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This is for final turn only:
498 horses were tested.
Horses that ran 5w or more made up 10% of the field ( 498 ) and won 4% of the races.
The winner of these 42 BC races and avg. was 2w in the first turn and was 2.5w in the 2nd turn. The problem with horses going wide is, how do you know which ones will go super wide? Maybe you have to downgrade the number's of horses that come from
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I never said I liked him, if your talking to me. I said on another post about him I think he bounces 2pts off the -3.3, looks like the making of a 0-2-X. Now I wouldn't totally toss him.
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I didn't read alot of that, but one thing I did see where he talked about the 10.0F at BEL the turn they start on not being that big of a factor for ex. he gave UNBRIDLED winning the BC in 1990, where he started in post 14, thing he did say was UNBRIDLED saved ground all the way into the 2nd turn, hugged the rail to win. Now TIZNOW was 5w5w in that race in 2001. But the 2nd place horse was 4
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You know you could say VOLPONI never beat anyone good, I say what's that have to do with anything. If their fast enough or they look to run the race of their lives bet them if the odds are good for ya. When I bet SWEET TALKER and posted it on here before the race on Sat at KEE, I didn't look at her PP's at all to see who she was running against. By saying Borrego ran slow, I guess
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SUAVE........got back to his life time top in his last and could be sitting on a big one.....also he'll be about 30-1. I'll have to wait and see the TG number's tom. night and get some kind of feel for it.
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The sprint use to be the 1st race of the BC races, I don't know what year this was changed.
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or the 93' BC, will we ever hear this again?? " He's 99to1 "
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The 98' BC was one of the best when AWESOME AGAIN won, and Tom D. called it right on the nose " A wild finish to the classic" you had 4 horse spread out running toward the wire and SWAIN so close to the grandstand you could almost reach out and touch him. I wacth these races at less every other day for the past 3 weeks now. My question is why doesn't CD get the BC at less ever
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It's like this Borrego will be coming into the BC with a 3pt new top, I would have to say he backs up 2pt's to a -1.3 I don't think he'll be a key, but no toss, maybe he'll go off at 8-1 or so. I think Jerry said SUAVE got back to his -0.1, wow wacth out for this one then. Can't wait till Wed when the pre-BC sheets come out.
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Beyer gave him a 110, again this is where you didn't factor in weight and the ground loss in the 2nd turn, add that in and you might have a 114 beyer something like that......right?? Beyer is on the line of rag's number, like a 110 is about a 6 for beyer and a 120 beyer is around a 2
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