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That's too bad. I was interested in your take on the Pa. Derby, a race with many question marks and some intriguing possibilities.
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Missed figure: #12 in CD’s 7th today: RUBUS’s debut number on Aug. 11th at Ellis. Jerry, I’d appreciate your best guess or guidance here.
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Jerry:
It would be great if you could provide info on no-fig runners in Kentucky Downs’s 5th today. Look. Many from Ellis Park. I won’t hold my breath.
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GUNNEVERA (23-1) easily best in Travers: From wide post, dove to rail, bumped, zig-zagged paths, made 5-wide far-turn move to get second money. He's back. Very impressive. Ran back to the -2?
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That horse absolutely WAS relevant! A horse second-off-a-layoff (especially from 30% trainer Danny Gargan) can indeed zoom forward! So can the second time starter from Jimmy Jerkens who finished a very close second (and almost won) the race before it! How can one possibly reason that Jerken's no-figure entry wasn't relevant? So there were two races in a row your users had incomplete set
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No fig-last winner just won at Saratoga (again). I suggest a system-wide rebate for your consideration.
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Thank you. If this was Facebook, I'd put a "like" to your response. An hour later that day (however the track may have changed), 2 yo colt winner went in 58.44, so this filly's 57.95 was a curiosity to try to have a line on.
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NO NUMBER. JUST A BOX: Like a Papa John’s free-pizza offering when the Yankees score six runs, someone suggested Jerry will be giving a $3.27 system-wide rebate if the filly presented without a performance figure, LIMITED VIEW, wins the G3 Schuylerville at Saratoga today. Not sure this rumor is true.
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I love Eddie D! Especially when he's a guest handicapper on the Churchill show.
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The following tweet by Ed DeRosa, Director of Marketing for Bloodstock Research, caught my eye recently. He tweeted:
Who is the greatest handicapper of all time?
Beyer
Crist
Pittsburgh Phil
Ragozin
He asked people to vote and over 600 respondents had made their choice. My reaction? First of all, it’s interesting that DeRosa chose Ragozin as a possibility and not our own boy, Jerry B
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The people who don’t think there’s a strong pharmaceutical element to Baffert’s success last Saturday are very very stupid. But there’s lots of stupidity going around in this world: Dennis Rodman is on his way to North Korea to talk to Kim Jong-un. And I just watched the documentary WEINER on cable. Stupidity is everywhere. It can’t be stopped!
We’ve been through this argument many
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Belmont's Friday card already has been drawn. It would be nice to have your data for that day available for downloading at your earliest convenience.
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And Ragozin's response has been to say nothing?
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Jerry: Do you have any sense of TOO MUCH TIP's level from her races in Puerto Rico? She's in Friday's Miss Preakness Stakes at Pimlico. Anything?
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This is a joke. A clear-cut slam dunk error in Ragozin's figures. PRACTICAL JOKE clearly saved more ground than CLASSIC EMPIRE. There's no way Ragozin should have awarded him a lower figure than CE.
Stunning.
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Suggestion: On big race days like this coming Saturday, it would be great to have your full sheets available a bit sooner after the races have been drawn, than normal. Especially for obvious track venues of special interest. This is not a criticism. Just saying.
For example, I wish I already had Keeneland’s opening Day Friday card, which drew Monday. And of course, Saturday’s juicy Keeneland c
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Thoro-Graph likes GORMLEY? Did I read that correctly? Baffert is thinking a couple of months ahead? Oh.
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Jerry -- I’m surprised you threw this back to me. It’s not about a single customer asking you for an estimate on a one-by-one basis that can be patched up with a single band-aid. You know full well when it happens. You make the figures. You have the data. I suggest you be proactive. Examine the problem and come up with a policy.
It’s like when half the Oaklawn card is cancelled and data is unu
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I’d like to weigh in with a personal opinion related to pricing. I’ve been an active and enthusiastic Thoro-Graph user for over 30 years (gulp) and the following is something I’ve felt strongly about for a while:
IF A HORSE HASN’T BEEN ASSIGNED A PERFORMANCE FIGURE FOR ITS LAST RACE, THEN DON’T CHARGE US FOR IT! THE PURCHASER SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME KIND OF REFUND.
It’s maddening to encounter
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Bitplayer said:
< Most trainers now do what Ellis has done, give them a shot two days after a run
< and space the races out so that they don't get a positive.
There it is folks. Today's racing game stated plainly. A few years ago, major changes were made to much of racing's stakes schedule - eliminating, swapping and spacing graded stakes further apart from each other.
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I assume MOYAMMEN’s been injected in the void since his Florida Derby. But as to how that effects him going forward is your move. If you look at the sheet for FROSTED, McLaughlin's contender in last year’s Derby, you’ll notice a preposterous forward move to a negative number late in his two year old year… then a fade away from that performance in his next two starts at GP… followed by a layo
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> TGJB: "There's a reason he has come close to winning the TC so many times."
Yes: Vin Baker.
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Apple announced an enhanced iPad Pro with a bigger screen yesterday, along with a new Pencil device that will make marking up documents easier and more instinctive than before. The Pencil tool, created in cooperation with Adobe, is particularly big news, because it can jumpstart a whole new era of digital paper. Both hardware upgrades a good thing for ThoroGraph.
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Rick Violette on UPSTART: "He needed the Haskell, there's no question. I got him ready, but I didn't pound on him to get him ready. He needed a race and he got one in a Grade 1. He'll move up off the Haskell, looking at the numbers and a little bit of common sense.”
In evaluating Upstart’s chances, that comment caught my eye. “Looking at the numbers?” But was Jerry, via Ell
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KEEN ICE seems the only horse to move forward in the Belmont. Once again, just like the Preakness, none of the big boys showed up! Certainly McLaughlin couldn't have gone forward (reacting to the -2). Certainly the winner couldn't have gone forward (reacting to the -3).
Let me put it another way: If Jerry gives AP a forward move in this Belmont, I'd consider the line "un-th
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Early availability (of big card days) would be welcome here.
The downside? Heavy rains swoop in to make those races unplayable and completely unlike what they may have seemed earlier in the week. Like this Friday? There's nothing worse than Belmont Park in the slop with 3 horse fields and a 2-5 Todd.
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Not sure if this has been part of the conversation here. Forgive me if it's already been discussed. Nevertheless…
Just downloaded Brisnet's early pp’s for the Belmont and was quite flabbergasted to see that BRIS had TALE OF VERVE’s splendid Preakness performance actually going backwards (92) from his prior race when he broke his maiden (95)! ThoroGraphically speaking, this is absurd.
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Jim:
Now that you've weighed in on the Wood Memorial and gotten that out of the way, can you tell us what we really want to know:
Should we buy more Skyworks Solutions here at this level (with a two year horizon)? Or has it run it's course for a while?
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