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There is one major answer: greed, greed from the politicians, tracks, horsemen and breeders,and wagering sites. Who is out there to represent the players? No one, if players start to get rebates, everyone is up in arms, it's unbelievable. The only way you can vote is with your feet, walk away. This is very difficult. You always believe that you can be the one to beat a 20% take, and in t
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It's interesting that the powers that be are killing the game but we continue to play. I am always amazed at this. How many drug trainers, batch wagering, pk 6 fixes, etc does it take to get us out of the game? Or is it a great game and will survive despite the powers that be. I think it will survive just like harness racing has "survived". Ask yourself this question, how many
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Players deserve rebates, no question. Horseracing is competing with other gambling entities and the take is usu only 5% and in racing it is a blended 20%. Casino comp their biggest players and horseracing should do the same. Every study that has been done shows that handle increases if the takeout is decreased. The only ones who don't know how to read these studies are politicians and Ho
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Chris:
I'm pretty sure we bet on that horse when we played the last pk 6 last year at DMR since it was getaway day!!!!!
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Now the equity investment firms are balking at the merger between Magna Entertainment and MI. To paraphased "Stronach wants to get a free ride for his horses on the resourses of MI". Link can be found on equidaily.com. Also, another Chief Exec. has left Magna after joining a couple of months ago.
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I know this is very controversial but ground loss in certain cases no matter how much is useless. That being said, TG figures are 100x more accurate than Beyers ever will be. It is not necessarily the accuracy of the fig but the pattern of the figures. I have not been able to successfuly define patterns with great reliabilty using Beyers but obviously have done so using TG. How do you tell if
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First: you have to keep records and ROI and then you can ascertain if you are good at picking winners or contenders. You can do this if you find out hitting more boxes than keys, if you win more playing horses in exotics, vs to win. If you are good at picking contenders then boxing is for you. I recently took a look at all my win bets and found that I was 1 for 34. This told me that I was goi
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Personally, Magna has some good ideas about racings such as rebates to players. However, their overall strategy is just plain dumb. No one at the top management knows what the hell they are doing. There are so many changes that it seems they have no continuity in their message. It seems that they want racing to be part of an entertainment complex rather than the central attraction. Also, thi
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Yes, I remember 86 very well because Mogambo was supposed to be very good but Ogygian(who is one of my favorite horses of all time) slapped him around pretty good. Mogambo was trained by Jolly and that is the same time Track Barron was running. Jolley gave Cordero a share in the horse at stud to get him to ride against Lady Secret in the 86 Whitney in which Lady Secret manhandled him(or is it wo
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You need to watch again, the horse he clipped had just taken the lead so I doubt very much he was tiring.
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JB:
This is one of the reason I had asked a while ago for the record of the top 3 TG horses in races, will that be available anytime soon. For example, if the ml fav is not one of the top 3 TG horse then he may(is) vulnerable.
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Anyone out there using betting exchanges such as betfair.com or ibetx.com? Would appreciate any input.
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In regards to the Bel DQ, I think the NY stewards are quite consistent compared to SCAL, a foul is a foul in NY, You can literally slap another horse in SCAL and not get DQed. The SCAL officials interpret the rules quite differently than anyone else out there. They will not DQ a horse but will suspend a rider for careless riding after the races, go figure. Now the first was questionalble but i
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That's why he has an encrypted phone!!!! The # that people then hear are actually Ragonzin #'s so it actually bumps up our price!!! Hope you can make it to Vegas for the BC(I hope I can make it)
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I like the guy very much but as I've said in a previous post he has a bad disease and he will lie, cheat and do whatever his mind tells him to do so he won't be caught. I hope the ban is permanent and he is adequately treated so he won't end up like Antley but I would not be surprised!!!
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I don't know how often you play pk 4 but that was a very low payoff considering the field size and lack of any first or second fav. winning.
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It wasn't The World is Not Enough, it was the one after Octopussy but I can't remember the name right now. It was so bad that it was Roger Moore's last Bond flick.
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I want to look at each race and find the 3 individual horses with best TG#, 2nd best TG# and 3rd best TG # and then run a query and find out what percentage of races they win. You can exclude maiden races because there may be lots of FTS. Also, I would only look at the horses last 5 starts and would go back no more than 1yr. He can also break it down to sprints, routes, turf, and dirt.
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JB: can you tell us what percentage of races are won by horses with the top 3 TG #(let's say top 3 TG over the last 5 races)?
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I USE YOUBET. THE BIG DISADVANTAGE IS NO REBATE. PINNACLE WILL GIVE REBATES ON ANY WAGER BUT PLACE AND SHOW WILL RECEIVE REBATES ONLY IF THE PAYOFF IS $2.20 OR GREATER. IT IS PROBABLY THE BEST SITE TO USE ALTHOUGH I DO NOT USE IT BECAUSE OF THE AMT I BET. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP LESS THAN $1,000 IN AN ACCOUNT, THEN PINNACLE IS THE PLACE TO BE. HOWEVER, IF YOU HIT A 90K PK 4, YOU MIGHT HAVE PROBL
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IF THAT MO-FO MAKES THE BREEDERS CUP, HELL WILL FREEZE OVER AND JB WILL SHARE A HOTEL ROOM WITH FRIEDMAN ON THEIR NEXT TRIP TO VEGAS!!!!!
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I don't think that wt issue was too clear. Then you would have to adjust every race the horse ever ran. The wt thing is relative. If every horse in the race is carrying 120 why would you need to adjust? The figs are based on 115 and this makes it easier to deal with. I don't know how you would leave the wt unadjusted in the database? Maybe you would want the horses top adjust to to
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A good friend said that Mike Willman who does a TV show for SCAL had Mullins on as a guest and asked Mullins how he compared Turf Paradise to SCAL and Mullins said on the air, Tup was better they didn't test for as many drugs there!!!!!! Anyone in SCAL hear this?
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Hey JB - 19 years ago
If you look at a horses last 5 races and these races have to be within the past 18months, what percentage of these races are won by the top 3 TG horses?
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I think everyone should realize that the account wagering sites are not geared for the triple crown or BC, they cannot be depended on to be up so a track or OTB is the best place. Actually, the best place is Jerry's rebate site, if only they take CA players!!!!
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I don't see any great conspiracy in the rides on Belmont day. However, what I see is a sudden form reversal of 4 of Zito's horses on Saturday. I think this is the bigger question here. How does Birdstone get a mile and a half off of that line? Also, if you saw the horse in the paddock, he looked like a pig. He had pointed hips, a skin rash, hardly an encouraging sign that a horse w
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Interesting, but why do they just use stakes races, why don't they use graded stakes or Gr 1 stakes, this plays down the accomplishment of the other TC winners.
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Trackjohn: our paths must have crossed on many occasions since I was there for all those races. I remeber the Danzig Connection one very well since the track was a sea of slop and all you had to do was get the lead, had 7 winners that day. You're right, all you had to do was get there early and put your old racing form on those seats(upper tier of course). But honestly, it got too risky i
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AP limited the race to people with tickets, you could not walk up and get into the track. That is not a great way to get new people into this game.
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