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kfach,
Regarding Catalano at Arlington. He's always claiming for Frank Calabrese. He claims for 10K and runs him right back down your throat at 10K, or brings 'em back for 7500.00 I can give you more specifics, if you're interested.
Raw numbers on Catalano on first time off the claim:
Last 30 days 6 claims, 4 wins;
Last 90 days 13 claims 7 wins;
Last 6 months 20 claims 1
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My experience with Scott Lake is that it depends who he claims it for. Is it Bruce Golden, Robert Cole Sr, Acclaimed Racing, Gumpster Racing, Home Team Stables, Richard Maloufo, or Ben Mondello? Among that group, there are 2 owners where the mutuel rises dramatically. Lake's numbers vary according to where he claimed the horse, if the horse runs back at that same track, or moves to anothe
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I'll be personally contacting my Congressman and giving my take on what is needed to correct the racing industry.
In addition to the drug issue, it's likely a Consumer Protection issue also.
Seems if the industry is going to list Lasix, bute, etc, it should also be required to list any steroidal drugs used. Don't you think?
If there are trainers using a Cornell Collar, the publ
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Rosewood,
I totally agree with your comment that racing groups brought this on themselves.
I think a first time test positive should be mandatory 6 months suspension with a healthy fine, 2nd offense should be 3 year suspension and 3rd offense should be a lifetime ban. If you are the listed trainer of the animal that would be the person suspended. To suggest the TAP's, Asmussens of th
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I can't wait for the conclusion of the Belmont Stakes.
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Primarily, I play the cheats, cause that's where the money's at.
I probably play more cheats at more tracks than anyone anywhere.
If a trainer is an incredible "talent" at River Downs, or Saratoga, it makes no difference to me. The best ones always overmatch the cripples in the field.
The jump up guys are just like third base coaches. They give all the signs, all the si
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There was no particular significance to it.
Everything you post has significance?
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From Steve Crist of the DRF come the following Beyer Numbers for horses who have won the first 2 legs of the TC from 1992 to 2008:
Silver Charm 115/118 = 233
Smarty Jones 107/118 = 225
Funny Cide 109/114 = 223
War Emblem 114/109 = 223
Real Quiet 107/111 = 218
Charismatic 108/107 = 215
Big Brown 109/100 = 209
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miff,
If you google Secretariat Beyer Numbers, you'll see some other huge numbers for Formal Gold, Groovy (sprint) Artax, etc. Cigar routinely ran 117 -121.
I haven't found Secretariat's Ky Derby or Preakness Beyers however.
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miff,
I stand corrected. I just googled it, Beyer gave Secretariat a 139, the highest Beyer ever. I knew it was just an insane number.
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miff,
I think it was higher than that. Maybe 138?
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Big Brown is bred to be even better on Cushion than dirt.
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The TC races are not dissimilar to the Olympics.
During the year, the athletes take 6 weeks to prepare for a meet. They do their prelim and then run in the finals. Then they take a breather and resume training.
They go to the Olympic Trials. They have their prelim, then their semi-finals and then they run the finals. Now they have to muster strong energy in shorter periods of recovery. T
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CD packed 123# in his Japan race against unknown quality and on a track rated as good, with no drugs listed.
It's up to the individual capper to decide what importance to attach.
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Economics question.
If the day ever arrived where the horses were performing on H.O.W. what would be the typical savings for a horse owner per typical animal on a yearly basis?
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jimbo,
I totally agree. If I'm not mistaken, the field that Secretariat beat in the Belmont never won another race, not even an allowance race. (Perhaps they were just shell-shocked from the drubbing they received, or maybe my memory is faulty).
Does Big Brown look totally unbeatable, barring something crazy? Yes, as we all witnessed, the first 2 legs were easy. Out of the 20 hole in
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Note to the room: All you smart guys in the room, quit being so stupid....
DO your homework !! May I suggest "My Little Pony" and then graduate to
"Equix Biomechanics", authored by alm.
At this point, Big Brown will be either 50% dominant, or 50% bust, or he may be sterile and we'll never know.
"Those convinced against their will, remain unconvinced still
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I think it would more like a sour grape color.
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Since Pino scratched the horse in both spots, makes you wonder what he might have been thinking.
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I think the topic of off-tracks, non-firm turf, etc would be an excellent topic to dive into once the Preakness has passed.
In addition to the off-tracks, it might also be a good time to really take an in-depth look at the differences in the artificial surfaces.
I maintain there are huge differences in the surfaces and would really encourage a lot of different theories from the forum members.
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Yankee Bravo has had 2 turf, 2 poly and 1 dirt, that's why I mentioned that.
Racecar 4 poly and 2 dirt.
Behind 4 artificial and 1 dirt that wasn't so good.
Good observation, I was just making a general statement as to the makeup of the field compared to all the unknowns shipping from Kee and Cal.
Go get 'em..
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With the exception of Behind, Racecar, and Yankee Bravo, the Preakness has mostly dirt or partially proven on the dirt type runners. Makes this one much easier to handicap than the Derby. Granted, fewer horses, unknown qualities.
Has the makings of a good wagering race.
I can't wait for miff to tell us who to play.
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True, so which lobby do you prefer? The industry lobbyists or the horsemen lobbyist?
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Congress should be the last entity examining books.
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Richiebee,
Yes, this is the sounding board primarily for ponies with an occassional slip into politics. I'll join richiebee with one last political point.
Richiebee, I enjoyed your latest post, however, I am disappointed in the fact that you managed to misspell disappointing twice. Disappointing,indeed.
Expecting any elected official to display any level of ethics or morality is asking
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Agreed rosewood, another time in another forum.
Horses invite plenty of dispute, let alone politics.
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How about the same amount of money Myanmar sent for the Katrina disaster?
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Tread,
Jeez, has it only been 6 times? May I suggest you don't read my posts? They're not really submitted for your approval. I tend to compare sarcasm with sour grapes and whine.
The idea that a large number of circuits ship to Keeneland doesn't present a problem if you know what you're doing.
The public's never been right more than 38% on any track anywhere in th
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