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"Of course they do. They are all looking at Sharp Azteca's 1 mile time and comparing that time to their 1 mile pars and adjusting their variants. If they looked at both horses 7fs, they'd be nearly identical, with TG having Cat Red a little faster for the extra ground loss"
Sek,
There is some useful data out there which show quit lines/deceleration in races. Applied to t
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Rez,
Said that many times, its a mystery.
Chad Brown's meteoric rise, esp w/grass runners,is unprecedented since going on his own about 2007. By way of background, his stated work with Frankel is overrated. He was a whipping boy, early on, who couldn't put a bridle on correctly.The physical presence of the Frankel grass horses smacked of steroids which were LEGAL.Tricky, friends w
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Sek,
FWIW,all the speed/perf figs I saw have it the way TG has it, Cat Red faster by a few lengths than Sharp Azteca.
Mike
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Voiced an opinion but know it's got zero to do with that " he's patient" nonsense often used here. Do you think that hundreds of other trainers aren't patient too? Patience means zero if a horse has no ability.
Gotta have good stock, he does, gotta race "hot" he absolutely does. Owner friend with him calls him miracle worker(with smirk) Runs many all muscled
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Silver,
You have no clue what he is or isn't doing, nonsense about "he's patient". His results are off the charts and defy training skills/patience.
Mike
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Creator,a slug,with a 99 Beyer affirms a weak Belmont(TG 1.25)With EXAG a no show,race just common.Tough beat with Destin,looked home did the most running, decent performance. Third close loss in Belmont for TAP (Stay Thirsty,Commissioner, Destin
Grinding slug Lani will get drubbed at shorter distances and remains speedless regardless of his phony wide fig.
Fraudsted loses scarlet letter wi
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Frank,
Handle down 15% vs last year and they had one more race this year. Friends just left, said place was light on people for a big day.
Concert now has a couple of hundred people.Make sure to say hello to Gov Cuomo tomorrow, heard he's getting there for first race, hates Cupid coming off entrapment. Umbrella needed??
Good Luck
Mike
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This has zero to do with NYRA.The rules are set by the New York State Gaming Commission which is all powerful in gambling issues/rules/licensing in NY State.
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Marcus Hersh DRF:
Was as impressed as anyone with Flintshire's Sword Dancer but foes there since gone 16-1-0-3 in stakes. The 1 was Messi's nose win in a G3.
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Private Zone forced to scratch from True North as NYSGC declares Brian Lynch banned from participating in NY racing, no explanation but sounds serious. Same NYSGC boasts of NY racing being transparent.
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Guess Kent out of rehab early
Mike Welsch:
"Exaggerator 5/8's 1:00.92 bore out 5-6 paths wide into stretch was under bit of urging to finish did gallop out strong in 1:12.91 Kent D up"
Others observing work thought it was very strong.
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Stewards in tough spot.Many millions at stake and safety of jocks and horses.NYSGC also looking at this. Imagine the blowback if Kent does something to cause an incident in Belmont.
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If you like Exaggerator gotta hope he's as good on dry surface and Kent D is sober by Sat. Kent in alcohol rehab,again.
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Wrong,
Nice race and looks forward moving,no pair, a top in the TG 3-ish range doing it off the clock,other one turns at same/similar distance.
Mike
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Magic,
It is without question that Clueless Kay and his bean counters are only concerned with squeezing every dollar they can squeeze out of the customer.In doing a cursory review of the p&l statement they brag about, it's evident that all they've really done is increase prices and made the game more expensive to play,on track.....Brilliant business acumen!
Mike
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Joe,
Spa should really be exciting this year, NYRA added new slide in play area.
Mike
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Joe B,
True,but forces at work hurting Monmouth which may be on life support very soon.Fat Christie has thrown racing under the bus in NJ.Stronach Group playing hardball with NJ horsemen creating trouble filling races at the shore.Attndance and handle way down over Memorial Day weekend.Monmouth was always a great place to go to especially if you are speed bettor.
Hellbent on revitalizing Ma
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Computer geeks "tracking" Trakus for over one year,find a fair number of discreapancies with overall times and splits.
Something as simple as accurately timing races seems a Herculean task. A former employee of Equibase opined that 30% of the published times were inaccurate.
JB, in the hand timing exercise you do(used to do) did you often find discreapancies?
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Surprising in that Peterson gave the Aqueduct Inner Surface a clean bill of health as it relates to breakdowns.The culprit was seen to be excessive masking medications that gets cripples past pre vet race exams. Soundness and excessive meds were seen to cause breakdowns, not the surface.
It's a gamble that turf horses will stay in NY during winter with a synth surface.NYRA loaded with slo
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Having them about equal certainly seems to reflect their whole performance, rather than solely looking at finishing positions.
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Glad your better! Very solid data, driven off up to date time charts, had sprints -51(3 lengths slow) Pimlico only has a 5 foot sprint run up, if you look at the sprints you will see the first split just 3lenghts slow on the day.
The crazy conditions can only lead to a pissing contest re track speed, the fig makers who agree obviously did the Preakness broken out,my guess is that Rags did not
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There were several two turn races, that's probably how they got there,details of how unknown.If we ever see their figs for all the two turn races, an answer should be apparent, whether one agrees or not. The fig wasn't picked out of hat,presumably.
I completely disagree that the Preakness should be done any differently than a 10 claimer and the number of tops or lack thereof is irrel
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Bob,
Respectfully,no,a surface which is genuinely slow will not produce a single extremely fast split much less a half in 46 change partially around a turn.
Had the early pace not been insane,the race would never have been run with the second half near 52 and last 3/16th in 20+
Where ya been?
Mike
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The fastest first quarter in the history of the Preakness does not reconcile with the surface being very slow. When a surface is very slow/dull,even very fast horses are unable run fast splits/final time. The whole Preakness was slow on the clock and that's probably how RAGS got there, same with the slow Wood.They are probably using the clock adj by a variant they determine off the day.
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Noticed most avoiding inside. Charts indicate several winners were "off the inside" Only rail winner was Exaggerator, Cherry Wine inside too,
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Who foresaw this possibility?
DRF:
VLT clawbacks in Cuomo's NYRA reorganization plan
Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s plan to re-privatize the New York Racing Association includes a provision to pull some of the revenue racing receives from the casino at Aqueduct, according to a watch group based in Saratoga Springs, N.Y.
The Concerned Citizens for Saratoga Racing on Tuesday issued a press re
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The next time you "predict" a horse will break down by reading numbers on a piece of paper,let me know. You get 10-1 every time.
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