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"A totally shocking development that you could see coming a mile away"
...I'll bite. How did you see Nyquist spiking a fever with an elevated white count?
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Oops! - 7 years ago
Six Preciado Horses Disqualified From Parx Victories After Testing Positive For Clenbuterol
Ray Paulick
Six horses trained by Ramon Preciado have been disqualified from victories at Parx Racing in March and April after each of them tested positive for the bronchodilator clenbuterol.
Preciado, the Bensalem, Pa., racetrack's leading trainer in 2014 and 2015, already was facing 270 d
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Rob,
Unified is the wise guy horse except that he was life and death vs a weak field in the Peter Pan. If field comes up weak and Unified is doing well,think he goes.
Re Nyquist regression in Preakness, it was 1/4 length after pace adjustment.Also watch the Preakness close and note Exaggerator moving right into the race after app the first half,Kent D commented he caught an inside live path
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Another service reporting Preakness early pace fastest they ever recorded in 25 years.
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Exaggerator, Nyquist, Suddenlybnews,Lani,Cherry Wine,Brody's Cause,Destin.
Probably a few more but no real gas outside of Nyquist...a little Destin.
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Board,
A long explanation not for board. In brief,for example, a horse could be 2-1 on the board at Monmouth but say like 3-1 on the exchange. If you like that horse, you beat the price betting on the exchange. You could also bet that horse to lose(you book the horse) at a fixed price.
Check NJ Bets website where there may be a complete write up.
Exchange wagering is very interesting and
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Friends are already there sharp shooting the soft money but not nearly enough pool depth/liquidity to make any real money.
If New Jersey survives,expect it to go national.Obviously,there are serious integrity issues. Already a report that a stable wanted to "pull" a horse and gamble against on the exchange.
Mike
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Frank,
No grass smoking since a teen and been Kool Aid free for over 20 years. All these arguments are going to be settled fairly soon at the windows.Exchange wagering has a shot to take off and provide opportunities for all to back their data with $$$...some players are going to get slaughtered.
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Let the figure maker without sin cast the first stone.
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Lea,
Don"t forget Lani is hay,oats and sushi(no lasix)
Mike
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Leamas,
Painfully looked at all his races overseas,weak fields.Made a decent long wide run 4 back but otherwise he's been one kinda paced.Training regimen and jock, yea.
Don't look at late splits for him or anyone in Preakness,they are horrifying.
Mike
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Lani gigantic pace set up in both races here, needs to get rid of woody he sports all too often, breeding great
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Lani has never "flown" since he got off a plane, total slug has never run a split in two races resembling fast
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Pimlico sprint run up in sprints is 5 feet,Preakness 30 feet
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Exaggerator with a Beyer 101 and a TF in same area, both like TG 1/4.Race featured fastest first quarter in history of Preakness and an off the charts early pace figure.Pace adjusted figures have EXag and Nyquist even at wire.Exaggerator one of very few that ran inside yesterday and did well but heavy rain preceding Preakness could have changed surface.
Both EXAG and NYQ reportedly heading for
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There is a possibility that the $80k was in the Maryland pool only before the national pools were merged,after the bet was made.Not certain it was cancelled either.
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Finally someone who gets it. Zero sum game??? Where's the $2 billion chop that does not go back to the players each year?
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Mor Spirit is kept out in the clear by design, his preferred comfort zone, like many horses.
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And yet from another methodology, AP's pace adjusted Derby fig Neg TG -3.25....Nquist TG neg -2 same results for pace adj Beyer.Rags would have Nyquist faster by 3/4 of a point after pace adj.
Discussions about "better" are usually subjective,properly crafted figures which take in all measurable racing factors answer "better" moreso than opinions.
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Abiding Star,more early gas, trying to clear quarantine and run in Preakness.
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Formulator: for the stat guys
Over the last 5 years,Doug ONeill is 31% (9-29) w/ a $2.28 ROI with horses coming back in 14 days or less on dirt off lifetime top Beyers
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Yea JB, running too fast early has never had an effect on the outcome of the finishing positions of the runners.
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Pete,
Tell me you are kidding. I know most of the top fig makers who make variants every day and they don't have 3-4 different ones during the day. At best, they may split a day now and then.
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Using the horses previous races to make a variant today? Works on Mars only.
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Put it this way, according to Peterson, if one is using multiple variants on a "normal" day, you're on a slippery slope.
There's no such thing as a track changing speed several times on a normal day, sans weather, maintenance changes.Most importantly,without very sophisticated equipment there is no way to identify if a track changed and by how much.Going off the horses prev
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Mick Peterson would wholeheartedly disagree with that assertion.
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Andy Beyer and Mark Hopkins could not make heads or tails of the Wood, the Beyer came an unimaginable 85( like TG 6) After wrestling with the raw data, they decided to use creative license to "make" the figure.
It is doubtful that the track changed speed by that much from the filly 9f race.The extreme early pace of the Wood took a huge toll late on the winner, last 1/8th in 14 second
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If I had a dollar for every horse that looked incredible after a big effort that bounced,I'd be rich. The toll of a previous effort more often presents under stress during the next race, not while galloping 2minute licks.
Nyquist a very nice horse but has not yet established resiliency which gets tested Sat, his first race within two weeks of his previous.
Exaggerator also reportedly t
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