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In Belmonts' 6th Sunday you have a great opportunity present itself. The 7/5* fav Duchov with Bailey is almost the slowest horse in the race! The $400 ex and $2700 tri are easily attainable. Take a peek at the Redboard Room Monday and you'll see it's quite easy. If only more were that simple LOL
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Are patterns from the twentieth century still viable and valid today? Any opinions?
Should we now embrace the horse with 7, 8, 9, 10pt top or development from a 2yo number? Or do we say no, look somewhere else. Is the 0-2-X dead? Is it now 0-0-X, 0-0-2-X or 0-0-0-X? Do we ignore 2yo figs after a long layoff and treat the 3yo as a new horse? Should we now forget the patterns and play the horse wi
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Mall:
I'm really not sure if true comparisons can ever be made. While looking at the winners or runner-ups, you can say which one looked better on either sheet, but would that have been the original wager to begin with? The contest had divergent opinions looking at the same sheets from either camp. I guess you have to start somewhere, LOL.
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Author: Jason L.
Date: 06-11-02 17:38
I don't really care about "the Freak's" picks, but I disagree with your analysis on which horse's the sheets provide valuable information.
First, on a horse coming off a layoff. I never look at trainer stats, but when a two year-old runs a good number first time out and then comes back off a layoff as a 3 year old, they often
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Author: superfreakicus
Date: 06-11-02 14:35
I see a few errors in that post, and a few notable omissions.
if you're trying to make a point, you might want to think things through next time you post up some frustrated diatribe.
if you're just trying to pander, rock on.
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Hey superfreakfeces:
Funny how there were a few errors and a few notab
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teekay:
Whatever works best for ya is the way to go. TG's west coast figs actually were instrumental in my switch to their product fwiw.
Generally, I find So Cal difficult to play. So many runners coming off long layoffs or very gappy spacing in their records. In recent years the quality of racing has plummeted not to mention field size. With the more consistent weather, perhaps pace
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Have to disagree. Power Choice on TG looked ugly, 3 big X's in last four races, but the whole race looked that way with several running big tops, a good race to pass.
Sarava, on the other hand, in his 3yo debut hit his 2yo top 7.5>>>>5.75>>>>>4.0 In retrospect, a rapidly improving horse. Unfortunately, having not raced further than 8.5F in his career was a big ne
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What the hey, gotta try.
R1.#3 15-1 Sunset Express Odds play fastest horse last, praying no bounce $1 Tri key 3/1,4,6,7,9,10
#4 Polish Silk 8-1 consistent small tops to a 9.5 maybe goes bonkers $1 tri key 4/1,3,6,7,9,10 Mott/Bailey returnee probably wins LOL
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R2. Ugliness everywhere you look except #1 15-1 Affair in Air keeps running small tops perhaps is due for the great leap fo
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How often are trainer and sire stats updated?
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How many horses and/or races would constitute a valid sample for any particular theory whatever it may be? i.e. bet any horse whose name starts with the letter "T" on Thursdays, silly but anyway.............
Thanks in advance for your input.
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There's more myth than legend to this race. Quick now, who won last year? How about five of the last ten? Hmmmm, neither could I. 2001 the immortal Exciting Story splashed to victory in the slowest running since 1947. Yankee Victor, Sir Bear, Wild Rush, Langfuhr, Honour and Glory, You and I, Holy Bull, Ibero, Dixie Brass ahhhh, trip down memory lane with those immortals.
Being bumped to a
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No expert, but for what its worth:
The first question is: what # will be needed to win this race. I'll hazard a guess somewhere in the "1-2" range. Zero??? hmmmm not here with these, again just a guess.
The paramount question revolves around War Emb, Medaglia, & Harlans. Each will be trying to put together a 4th great race in 9 weeks (2 range or less, older "0") Har
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Alydar wrote:
"You wrote something on the Paceadvantage board that I found perplexing: "Sheet theory says 0 (top) followed by an effort within 2 pts of the new top will lead to an X, an effort 4 pts + from the new top." Isn't this too categorical?" Perhaps.
The nature of the top is by far the most important aspect of any analysis.
The post was aimed at those that reall
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teekay:
Baffy only got the horse after the IL Derby, so he can't be blamed if WE peaked already.
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Do you arbitrarily decide which numbers are "real" and which are figments of T-Graph's imagination? Why use them if that's the case? Whatever..............
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The neutral freakin' back stabbing, pond scum Swiss!?!?
Yup, the neutral Swiss. Back both sides of a war, that way you're "neutral". Instruemental in supporting the Reich's war machine early on. Guess who processed the silver and gold from the mouth's of Holocaust victims? Heaven's no! Not the Swiss! Who sucked up the bank accounts of war and Holocaust victims,
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Tim:
Finally breaking through the 11's is a very positive sign. Did she bounce off the 2pt move? Wellll, I'm no Philly Park fan, but a shade under 1:49 for 8.5 is sllooooow and none of the others had a very positive line. Taking 6/5 on a filly not to bounce is not the way to bet. Fillies in the spring can empty out your wallet in a hurry.
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Nakatani took a bad spill at Holly Thurs, Day in the irons for the Derby.
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Just some #'s from the combatants:
Blue Burner: Both have Fl Derby as 4pt top TG-Wood a slight move back, Rag a new 2pt top.
Buddha: TG 3pt bounce in Wood, Rag virtually a pair up.
Came Home: Rag hit 2yo top in 3yo debut, TG a 4pt top. Both lines regressing, Rag 5.75, TG 3.75 since.
Castle: nada
Danthe: TG paired up 6's this year before retreating in SA D, Rag hit 2yo top regresse
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Will CD be a seperate track or part of the simul package when purchasing a hardcopy at Westgate?
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Some people would like to play a superfecta but are confused to the cost. With plenty of value in the tris and superfectas in the Derby, here are some costs of $1 superfectas for those confused and mathematically challenged such as myself LOL!!!! Using same horses from slot to slot:
1/2/3/4=$8 each add bottom only add $4 A+BC+BCD+BCDE
1/2/4/4=$12 each add bottom only add $6
1/2/5/5=$24 each add
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Hello folks:
Those of you with listed e-mails, be wary of this attatchment. Looked innocent enough, prescanned it with McAffee on Hotmail came up as a virus, first reported 4/17/02. So beware.
Regards,
Gvido
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Money was never an issue with EOD, he picked up $150k in the GII Norfolk win at SA.
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Come Saturday, Harlan will be the likely fav with his magnificent, workman like record 10-6-4-0 and $1.4 mill in earnings. Wouldn't be surprised to see 7/2-4 to 1. His 1.75 top to a "0.50" and return to his old top is an 0-2-X waiting to happen. I just can't see 6 straight monster numbers for an early three year old (nor could I see 5 or 4 LOL). Huge profits are lurking around
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Trainers comments about others' horses is laughable. Shug was raving about Nakoma in Florida just before the FOY or FL Derby. He hasn't lifted a hoof. Most of it is BS and should be viewed with skepticism.
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Frankie is "G's" main boy and he'll ride wherever they want him. Friday nothing important is cooking in Europe, so Frankie's here.
There is far more prestige in winning their classics than ours (200+ yrs vs 128 LOL). The rivalry between Godolphin and Coolmore is unbelievable. Nothing in this country compares. Buuut it does make me wonder a little bit ;-)
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TGJB:
What was VG's original post position before the re-draw?
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derby1592:
Nice in theory, but the reality is that since 1960 post 1 2w 1pl 3sh. Last 20 post positions with field size:
01 16-13-8/17
00 15-2-14/19
99 16-18-10/19
98 3-13-8/15
97 5-4-13/13
96 15-4-10/19
95 16-14-15/19
94 8-7-13/14
93 6-5-13/19
92 10-4-16/18
91 5-15-10/16
90 8-13-9/15
89 10-13-12/15
88 11-17-1/17
87 3-14-16/17
86 1-4-9/16
85 10-6-2/13
84 15-19-14-20/20
83 10-5-20/20
82 18-8-10/
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Buddah - 22 years ago
I'm tossing him from my tix. I've seen thousands of sheets (no hyperbole) and I've never seen a third out effort of "0.75", perhaps the best since T-Graph opened the doors. The bounce in the Wood may continue. It's hard to imagine that the great match with Medaglia was an off effort, but it'll take longer for him to recoup from his best. But with Epogen and othe
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