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Would anyone happen to have the sheets for the winners of the Pat Day Mile going back to 2010? Much appreciated.
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I’m sure there are a lot of people busy, but is there any chance anyone in the Thorograph office can post the TG figs for the 2021 Kentucky Derby day card? Thanks in advance.
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KNOWN AGENDA's sheet is interesting. Improved substantially (11 to 3 1/2) when dropping to the allowance race and getting blinkers. Then another nice 2 point improvement in Florida Derby. Just wondering if your opinion will be he's had too much development from 2yo year to Florida Derby?
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What day and time will TG figs for pre-entries be ready for purchase?
Thank you!!!
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Brisnet has put out preliminary pp’s for likely contenders in the Breeders Cup.
Is there a date certain when TG will be putting out figs for likely contenders?
I’m sure you get asked this every single year
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Does Thorograph have a chart anywhere on its website that would show what figs are standard for a Grade 1 Race, Grade 2 Race, and so forth down the class levels? Thank you
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When will yesterday’s results from Fairgrounds be available in Red Board Room?
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Your competitors post their speed/performance figures on Twitter every week for major stakes that took place the prior weekend. Any chance Thorograph can do the same? I personally think it would give TG a lot of exposure. Thank you for your consideration.
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Question to any of you that are knowledgeable about workouts:
What is the purpose of workouts at each of these distances: 3f, 4f, 5f, 6f, and
What is a trainer mainly trying to accomplish at each of those distances?
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Can this be done by Thorograph or someone on this site:
I would like to purchase the TG sheets for each of the winners of every stakes on the Ky Oaks and Ky Derby days going back to 2000.
Please reply here or email me at dsipes@bbtel.com with cost
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What date next week will TG sheets for pre-entries be available for purchase?
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johnnym Wrote:
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> Look thru the archives
I've done a tremendous amount of research for BC races in the archives. Been extremely useful. Just looking for some other's opinions about TG figs in European turf races.
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how reliable are the Thorograph figs for the European turf runners (those coming for the Breeders Cup)? I've heard they're very reliable and I've heard the opposite. Hoping for some serious discussion. Thank you!!!
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This may have been addressed before, but when I go to the archive page and download the 2018 Breeders Cup sheets, it's Del Mar sheets from 2017 instead of the BC sheets for Churchill Downs. Is this going to be corrected?
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I have a different question for the team: was there a sizeable gap between the Thorograph figs of Promises Fulfilled in The Phoenix and Roy H in the SA Sprint? I'm going to get the sheets for Breeders Cup but would really like to know beforehand.
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Accelerate did regress badly in one speed figure publication but only regressed
3 3/4 on another sheet publication, the later telling me the Pacific Classic didn't take that much out of him. But, I have heard TGJB say in previous seminars that those looking like they're tailing off this time of the year probably are and he's been right a lot of times. Just curious. Probably go
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Richie B.... Regarding your question if it's possible to regress in prep before BC.....I only know what I read about sheet analysis. It's my understanding that if the form of a horse is good before the one unusually "off" regression, the general rule is to forgive the horse for that off race. Worth noting that 5yo's and older have done horribly in the Classic since 1997
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Question to long time Thorograph pattern and condition analysts: Do you think Accelerate's performance in the Awesome Again was the result of a deep tiring track and regression from his big effort/low TG fig in the Pacific Classic OR an older horse with declining form after a big effort (during a time of the year that often shows declining form in horses)?
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I was involved in discussion with another figure maker about Accelerate's three consecutive -3 1/4 Thorograph figs before the Pacific Classic. That person said those figs were earned under very favorable scenarios and Accelerate towered over his competition in class and pace. I said I didn't think Thorograph looked at that in coming up with its figs but wansn't for sure. Can som
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Would appreciate some discussion about Voodoo's pattern and figures. Voodoo is a 4yo turf horse. His best fig as a 2yo was a 16. On July 22, 2017 (his 3yo year), he improved to a new top by 8 3/4 to a 7 1/4. Obtained new non-drastic tops in each of his next 4 consecutive starts and finally regressed only 3 1/4 points three months later in October 2017. Was rested 5 months and made his
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Thank you. Another question.
When a 2yo runs a number that is strong enough to set it back a couple of months, roughly how many points can Thorograph project that horse to run faster than that "setback" number in its future development? 7 to 10 points?
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Enjoyed the write up on SKEPTIC for the Race of The Week.
Question: it stated in Skeptic's write up that a bounce would not have been a surprise after Skeptic posted his new top 6, which was 4 3/4 improvement from prior Top. I know each case can be different, but GENERALLY, how much of a point spread would get your attention to declare a bounce wouldn't be a surprise???
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Re-thinking his a little bit, the consecutive good performances with good spacing by 3yo turf horses like Analyze It and Hunting Horn are actually positive signs. But Analyze zit has exerted himself all out in the last two and I have to think those two big efforts take their toll today.
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This one runs in The Secretariat today and looks like the logical one to me as I see Analyze It and Hunting Horn to bounce based on their patterns. Sniper Kitten has had only 4 races with a 9 1/2 point improvement from first race to last race, but it's been steady incremental improvement and no setbacks so far. For those of you that know TG patterns better than I do, am I on to something o
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Here is my issue with Hunting Horn at Arlington today. Anybody agree or disagree? 3yo who has improved 8.25 pts from his 2yo top and has run his top in the last 2 races. Post 13 and running style ensure a wide trip. I read all of this to conclude bounce city. What say you guys?
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In the Bing Crosby ROTW analysis, the author stated in the analysis for AMERICAN ANTHEM that a healthy 4yo should be able to get back to its 3yo top quickly (one of first two races). Are there any general guidelines like this for 3yo's and 5yo's and older? Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Having visited this forum hundreds of times and having purchased the seminars, I've come to this conclusion. Both sides of this thread are correct. The seminar is great and very much worth the money you spend on it. And there are a lot of pretentious folk on here that post regularly. Rarely are there any discussions of TG patterns, which is what this forum should be exclusively about. Th
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I researched the archives back to 1997. Basically, if you're solely a stats person, Mendelssohn has a tall wall to climb in the Derby. Since '97, only 3 horses have won who came in with the best TG fig in their last prep. Those three winners however had a lesser spread between their figs 2 races back to their final prep than Mendelssohns, whose fig 2 back to his last fig in Dubai is
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